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Old 12-22-2004, 05:08 PM
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Spray on Armour coat

Hello everyone,

Just thought everybody would want to know there is a new product out to aid in rock chipping.It's called Armour coat and it's awesome!! you spray it on so you don't have the unsightly lines around the lights and bumper and it looks much better than the plastic film and the edges won't peel up.
If anyone is intrested give me a call or email me (425) 883-3300 Steve
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Old 12-22-2004, 05:40 PM
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Hello everyone,

Just thought everybody would want to know there is a new product out to aid in rock chipping.It's called Armour coat and it's awesome!! you spray it on so you don't have the unsightly lines around the lights and bumper and it looks much better than the plastic film and the edges won't peel up.
If anyone is intrested give me a call or email me (425) 883-3300 Steve
Is it just a spray on?? Doesn't dull the look of the car. Mine is black and I was thinking about getting ther clear bra. Does it come off with a wash and then you re-apply??
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Old 12-22-2004, 05:50 PM
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no it's a permanent product. It does not wash off and it's crystal clear.looks way better than the film.

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Old 12-22-2004, 06:49 PM
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where do you get it????

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no it's a permanent product. It does not wash off and it's crystal clear.looks way better than the film.

how is it applied and how much is it?
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Old 12-22-2004, 07:13 PM
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We do it here @ queen city auto rebuild it is sprayed on in a heated booth and price can vary depending on how much needs to be done it's $475.00 for a bumper and $1200. to $ 1600. for a full kit

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Old 12-22-2004, 07:42 PM
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I talked with FoS about this, and one concern I had was that it's "permanent." If you ever have to redo it because of a problem, such as during application, or reapplication, you need to repaint the whole panel. Correct?

Steve: Do you have a product brochure or URL which talks about it? FoS also said that you only have sprayed a small number of cars to date. Any f-cars?

I'll wait on getting the clear bra stuff for my new Spider until I get the details of this. But, it seems like it's twice the clear bra price, and has severe downsides if mangled. I grant that it looks better, but I'm not yet convinced given the risk. What am I missing?

More info please - thx - Tim
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Old 12-22-2004, 08:25 PM
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No you don't have to repaint the whole panel just the area where the film is and say if you scuff up against somthing you can just spot it in without doing the whole panel. If your removing the film then you would need to paint the whole panel.we have done about fifteen cars to date and we have four Ferrari's sched.We have been working with this product for several months now, manipulating it just to make sure it is what they claim. and it is and as long as your very carful putting it on there is no problem.
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Old 12-23-2004, 12:01 AM
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Anyone wanna try this and test it out? Do you have any brochures? Website or link? What is the warranty on this product? You mentioned it's a "film"?, but how does film come out of a can? Are there any guarantees of the paint not chipping? Sorry for all the questions, but I'm a little concerned about whether this really works bc I've never heard of it.
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Old 12-23-2004, 01:27 AM
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My 612 will be going in for this treatment soon (it's in the shop now to get some other work done and then off to QC for the treatment). After 3000 miles the car has a good number of dings in the nose to fix already, and some particularly vulnerable spots along the sides where gravel kicked up from the front tires is really ripping into the paint. I really liked how the sample panel Steve did for FofS turned out. It's a lot better looking than the 3M film approach, which I just can't stand. I put a lot of miles on my cars, and if this gives me even just another 20K miles between re-sprays, it'll be great.

I'll definitely give it a workout in the next few months, and report back how it fares under heavy use. If Steve and gang can get it done and ready to abuse by mid-January, I should have another 10K miles on the car by end of February. Gotta road trip planned.
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Old 12-23-2004, 02:24 AM
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steve - you can have my cars to put the new stuff on. let me know how the schedule looks and you can go to the shop and get whatever car you want to take first.
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Old 12-23-2004, 02:19 PM
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Maybe we should take the sample panel at FoS and put it outside and tell the neighborhood kids to throw rocks at it for an afternoon! I'd love to find out how chip resistant this new stuff is compared to the clear bra... ;-}
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Old 12-23-2004, 02:31 PM
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By all means, have at it. We have been doing that ourselves.I would be the last person telling you about this if I thought in anyway it didn't work. I do have information comming for everyone, in test results it resist rock chipping better than the film.
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Old 12-23-2004, 02:55 PM
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Going to FoS later today. I'll throw some rocks at the sample and let you know the result.
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Old 12-23-2004, 06:39 PM
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Just got back from FoS. Below are some pictures of Tino trying to do damage to the scrap F50 carbon fiber bumper.

Picture 1. The section on the right was sprayed with the Armour Coat The section left of the line is covered with the protection film. As you can see, the sprayed section looked infinitely better and the surface is quite smooth.

Picture 2. Front of the bumper with all the curves is not a problem. It looked quite glossy and optically clear.

Picture 3. I was joking about throwing rocks at it. But Tino took the idea further and brought a hole punching tool and a hammer to do some damage.

Picture 4. That's the tool Tino used on the bumper. He basically chucked it like a spear repeatedly while we all stepped clear. It was performed on various spots on the bumper.

Picture 5. Pointing out a worked over section. The surface remained smooth overall with no discernable pitting under the lighting condition. However, Tino did manage a couple of gouges on the lower bumper lip when the tool made contact at an angle. I believe the spots could be touched up.

Initial impression and the impromptu demonstration showed that it's a very good product. I'd like to see a car with the "seasoned" product before making final judgement. For now, I like it.
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Old 12-24-2004, 06:07 PM
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Man you guys are tough on testing! good job

Merry Christmas to all
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Old 12-26-2004, 03:54 PM
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Willis: Did Tino do the same (testing) to the clear bra side? Results? Seems like each side needs the same testing to gauge apples-to-apples results. Thx - Tim
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Old 12-26-2004, 08:02 PM
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Willis: Did Tino do the same (testing) to the clear bra side? Results? Seems like each side needs the same testing to gauge apples-to-apples results. Thx - Tim
I don't recall if Tino chucked the hole-punching tool into the clear film section. But that section did look rough (scratches, bumps, bubbles,etc). He did use the tool on the wheelwell edge of the scrap bumper but I don't know if that was covered by the film. That part got a nice toolmark after the test.

Maybe we should do another test.

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Old 12-27-2004, 08:58 PM
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Went down to Queen City and talked to Steve about this new process. Like Eric, looks like I'll be bold and give it a shot. Steve had all the right answers and puts quality as the #1 priority. And, he said he'll make anything right if there are any boo boos in the application. I hope to get the car back by Friday. More to come... - Tim :-)
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Old 12-29-2004, 11:43 AM
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Armour coat

Here is one in progress.
As you can see the line is very minimal very clear and has a good shine,but you can also see that we need to take the car apart to do it right.
Some vehicles don't require the need for disassemble so price will be cheaper on those vehicles.
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Old 12-29-2004, 11:47 AM
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This may be a silly question, but why don't you spray the whole car? Scratches can appear in other areas than the bumper. You can get scratches along the doors from bicycles brushing up against a car in a garage, for example.
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